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#9016   hendricks07.10.2005 - 09:18
ja das wäre mal wieder "Gott", ein knaller, wenn niniji wieder mit den spiffern im studio wäre. bitte,bitte, bitte!!!!!!!!! mein kollege der wolf war auch mit den spliffern im studio und haben " da fliegt dir doch das blech weg " neu aufgenommen. grüsse an alle ninamanias abha, esi, romy.etc.

#9015   OH THANKS & PRAISES !!07.10.2005 - 04:18

#9014   HelenHomepage07.10.2005 - 03:30
I want to thank each and every one of my well-wishers........the prayers indeed helped. Mom had a near death experience that was the wierdest flippin\ thing I have ever experienced in my life!!!!! The way she describes it is quite freaky. It\s all beautiful now. . .. for now. Her heart is now functioning @ 30% and we brought her home today.

From the bottom of my heart, I thank you all!
I, too, thought of those lyrics from The Change!



#9013   112007.10.2005 - 02:32
is an online free translation. Not my fault if problems are within.

Tired checking off now

#9012   4 you english speaking promoters07.10.2005 - 02:30
The GEMA assigned unemployed persons of attorneys to check the web pages for undeclared hearing samples. My Mitmusiker it already got us, as well as one! The punishments are disproportionate high and amount to approx.. 25.000. - Euro and more depending upon like for a long time their already demos on the HP have and like many marks these were clicked and downloaded! Pure Abzocke!!! Thus in time and makes that announces, thus no more by us public broke to be made!!! The titles on the Website must be allowed with the GEMA announced and not to to be down-loaded to have! (right mouse), but gestreamt and not longer than 45 sec. long must be offered!!! Even if there own titles is!!! This news type character or a his own to all musicians, singer, sends agencies, to it knows and warns her!!! Andreas schmitges of A tickle into the heart durchforstet the gema side and the following left found: http://www.gema.de/media/de/online/gema_tarif_vr-w_2.pdf

#9011   Have a Good Night + Life07.10.2005 - 02:18
Cherios + Soya Milk. I gotta get more folks out of trouble.

The GEMA message is from me.
Right where you want me to be.

Don\t have much patience 4 here 2day GONE 2morrow.

Check this out seriously, Nina Ok? It is da REAL DEAL!

Tell Pierre too, might save him a few buckeroos.


#9010   Friends Seriously Watching Out 4 FRIENDS07.10.2005 - 02:04
Betreff: GEMA-Mist

hallo naomi,
auf der deutschsprachigen klezmer-mailingliste kam folgender hinweis:

Die GEMA hat arbeitslose Rechtsanwälte beauftragt, die Webseiten zu kontrollieren auf unangemeldete Hörproben.

Uns, sowie einen meiner Mitmusiker hat es schon erwischt! Die Strafen sind unverhältnismäßig hoch und belaufen sich auf ca. 25.000.- Euro und mehr je nach dem wie lange ihr schon Demos auf der HP habt und wie viele Male diese angeklickt wurden und heruntergeladen wurden! Reine Abzocke!!! Also meldet rechtzeitig an und macht das publik, damit nicht mehr von uns pleite gemacht werden!!!

Die Titel auf der Website müssen bei der GEMA angemeldet und dürfen nicht zum runterladen sein! (rechte Maus), sondern müssen gestreamt angeboten werden und nicht länger als 45 Sek. Lang!!! Auch wenn es eigene Titel sind!!! Schickt diesen Newsletter oder einen eigenen an alle Musiker, Sänger, Agenturen, die Ihr kennt und warnt sie!!!

andreas schmitges von a tickle in the heart hat die gema-seite durchforstet und folgenden link gefunden:


herzliche grüße
andrea, vom schlag getroffen

Love You,


#9009   marko07.10.2005 - 00:20
Sometimes we feel like chatting....sometimes we feel like we just can win...
sometimes we feel like we were born, to chat off your ears...in pierre\s!
Seriously we tell about chat time because it lets us know when to meet! Nina goes there too.....it is full of friends and love!!
end of transmission

#9008   DR. HONIGTAU06.10.2005 - 23:49

#9007   Here it is...Homepage06.10.2005 - 23:38
India\s Sacred Cow: Her Plight and Future
By Michael W. Fox

Many of India\s cows, revered by Hindus, live lives of suffering and misery due to their own and human overpopulation, overgrazing, and the changing nature of India\s economy. Veterinarian Michael Fox argues that the time may have come to think the unthinkable.

India has the largest concentration of livestock in the world, one-third of the world\s cattle on approximately three percent of the world\s land. India is the world\s second largest milk producer, with over half of its milk coming from buffalo. Seventy-six percent of Indian people are rural, living in some 600,000 villages. The economic and social values of cattle are so great that cattle have long been seen as religious symbols and are regarded as sacred. In India\s villages today, one can see the close relationship between cattle and their owners, who have high regard for their animals as individuals, as vital family-providers, if not also actual family members. Hence the strong resistance to killing and eating such close animal allies. But this symbiotic alliance is breaking down as larger modern dairies are established and animals\ individuality is lost, and as venture capitalists purchase bullocks and carts to be rented out, or lease animals to complete strangers who have no emotional or economic interest in them.

Sadly, India\s sustainable pastoral communities have become almost a thing of the past. There is not enough land for all to share. The combined effects of population growth, rural poverty, and ecological illiteracy have had devastating environmental and socio-economic consequences. To these we must add "agricultural modernization" where good land is being used to raise feed for broiler chickens for the export markets in the Gulf States and even Australia. Abandoned cattle wander everywhere searching for food, along with other cattle whose urban families are landless. Many are hit by traffic or develop serious internal injuries from consuming plastic bags, wire, and other trash.

Too Many Cattle

India now has so many cattle, according to Professor Ram Kumar of the India Veterinary Council, that there is only sufficient food for 60 percent of the cattle population. This means that of an estimated 300 million calves, bulls, and bullocks, some 120 million of these animals, especially in arid regions (and elsewhere during the dry season and droughts when fodder is scarce), are either starving or chronically malnourished. Because the majority of Indians are Hindus, and thereby hold the cow sacred, many consider the killing of cattle even for humane reasons unthinkable.

Because of overstocking, overgrazing, and a seasonal and regional lack of fodder and water, many cattle suffer from chronic malnutrition. This in turn weakens their immune systems and makes them susceptible to parasitic infestations and other diseases. Large numbers of poorly nourished cattle create a potent medium for outbreaks of infectious diseases which necessitate costly vaccinations. These are too often ineffectual due to inadequate refrigeration. India has thousands of gowshalas (cattle shelters) and pinjrapoles (animal shelters) where as many as several hundred sick and injured cattle, spent milk cows, unwanted male calves, and broken bullocks formerly used for draft work are kept until they die. But not all regions of India have sufficient cow shelters, and not all of them are as well funded as others. Gowshalas are most prevalent in northern and western India; few exist in central regions like Orissa and Andhra Pradesh and in the southern states of Tamil Nadu or Karnataka. Pinjrapoles are mostly concentrated in Gujarat and other regions linked to the movement of Gujarati Jains (called Marwaris) who set up businesses in other states. Even though Indians know that the buffalo is a better quality milk producer than most varieties of cows, buffaloes are rarely found in gowshalas because they are considered unclean and not worthy of the same respect as cows.

The prohibition against killing cattle--widespread in this majority Hindu culture because the cow is considered sacred--is motivated less by compassion than by the belief that to kill is to make oneself impure. So, rather than defile themselves by so doing, orthodox Jains and Hindus may inadvertently cause unnecessary and prolonged suffering to animals who should be euthanized. While this principle of ahimsa (or non-violence) has many virtues, its historical validity and context has changed as India has become more populated and multicultural. Indian hotels import beef from Australia, which a devout young Hindu waiter in Bangalore told me filled him with shame when he had to serve it. His sensibility is to be respected, but the suffering of India\s sick and starving cattle needs to be acknowledged by all of India.

The suffering is great. Millions of old, spent cows, exhausted bullocks, and young male calves are driven on foot up to 300 miles, or are crammed into trucks for transit into Kerala, or in railroad cars to West Bengal, where slaughter is legal. This meat is indended for Muslims and for export to Arab countries. The cows\ often bleeding, worn down hooves make hardly any sound as they pass by. Many sustain injuries being loaded and off-loaded during part of the journey or die in transit. Some collapse on the way, are beaten, and even have salt and hot chilies rubbed into their eyes and have their tails hammered, twisted, and broken to make them get up and keep walking. Some of those being transported get trampled and suffocate, or have an eye gouged out by another\s horn. Water and fodder are rarely provided during their long journeys, and even at rest stops.

India does not want her cattle to suffer, and there is much guilt and denial. I was told that one top Indian environmental attorney said, "There is definitely no cow slaughter in India because it is prohibited." While this is obviously not true of slaughter in Kerala and West Bengal, illegal slaughter of cattle is widespread, even in the capital, Delhi, in backyards where there is no sanitation or meat inspection. Other livestock like chickens, pigs, sheep, goats, and buffalo also suffer hardship and many diseases, but there are no prohibitions against their slaughter for human consumption or for humane reasons. And it is extraordinarily hard to kill an injured or dying cow for humane reasons. When there is no effective SPCA or Blue Cross animal shelter, or any means to transport injured and sick cows to receive proper care, and when euthanasia cannot be easily undertaken, cattle become the victims of religious sentiment in collision with reality.

Some Solutions

The overall cattle population must be reduced. Because a vast and expanding human population relying on dairy products as a dietary staple needs so many dairy cows, much suffering results. Most Hindus and Jains, therefore, should consume no dairy products. Pending this admittedly major change in religious and cultural behavior, sick and unwanted cows should be allowed to be slaughtered throughout India to stop them starving to death, wandering emaciated through the streets and risking assault for "stealing" food from stallholders. Jains and Hindus must respect the Muslims, Christians and others who consume the meat of spent cows and abandoned male calves. Likewise, those who eat meat in India should take action against inhumane slaughter. For those cattle that remain, their health and productivity should be enhanced through genetic improvement and by better nutrition through the establishment of emergency fodder banks and sources of water to see them through the dry seasons. Alternative sources of income--such as raising milk-goats and producing more fodder--must be provided for farmers who are reliant upon cattle manure as a major product. India\s use of good land to raise feed for broiler chickens, goats, sheep, and buffalo for export to meat-eating countries needs to be more closely examined.

The root of the problem is ideological, and the ideological conflicts between the reasonable and the less reasonable must be resolved. The expansion of the domestic animal and human populations in India will spell doom if they are not controlled. Certainly at one time, cattle and other domestic animals generally played a positive role in environmental conservation, recycling manure, urine and crop-leftovers and in enhancing biocultural diversity. But under the pressures of the global monoculture of industrialism, all vestiges of humane, organic and sustainable agricultural practices, wisdom and spirituality may be obliterated forever. In the end, there needs to be a healing of the divisions between the sacred and the secular, belief and practice, so that ahimsa does not mean nonactivity or nonintervention, but leads to active compassion toward all beings, human and nonhuman.

Michael W. Fox is a board member of Global Communications for Conservation Inc (GCC) and Consultant for GCC\s India Project for Animals and Nature. This article has been excerpted with permission from a longer article, which can be obtained by contacting GCC at 150 East 58th St., 25th Floor, New York, NY 10155. Tel.: (212) 935-5568. Email: nyoffice@gcci.org website: http://www.gcci.org.

#9006   In India06.10.2005 - 23:33
The govornment is getting tired of the holy cows on the streets. I read that they are offering money to those turning cows over to the police.

#9005   Chaim-TheZacky06.10.2005 - 23:18

...Oi Oi.....POGOOO!!!!!

#9004   Human Rights Punk WestwoodHomepage06.10.2005 - 23:01
The Gold Label show I will present in Paris on October 4th is called AR. I am using my show to present the ideas of my campaign- lots of badges and graphics- great T shirts- instead of seeing Che Guevara on peoples chests I thought why not put Rembrandt on a T shirt, he wore a beret and was just as revolutionary. The theme is that there is a secret revolution going on, a resistance movement in town, Active Resistance to Propaganda.
I have included the political T’shirt, ‘I am not a TERRORIST, please don’t arrest me’ which is a protest against the British government’s attempts to take away our legal rights. There is a new badge for Leonard Peltier

Vivienne Westwood

#9003   PUNK06.10.2005 - 22:55
Marilyn Manson wirbt für Vivienne Westwood
Kennengelernt haben sich die Designerin und der Rockstar schon im vergangenen Jahr auf einer Dinnerparty. Nun sind die Früchte der Freundschaft von Vivienne Westwood und Marilyn Manson auch im Netz zu sehen, und zwar auf der offizielle Website des Westwood-Labels.

In der dort präsentierten Werbekampagne für die Kollektion des kommenden Sommers posieren Manson und seine Verlobte Dita von Teese für das britische Modehaus.

Die Bilder sollen bald auch in diversen Modezeitschriften zu sehen sein. Laut dem Onlinedienst der britischen "Vogue" wird die Designerin im Gegenzug das Brautkleid für die Künstlerin entwerfen, die angeblich noch in diesem Jahr den umstrittenen Rockstar heiraten möchte.

#9002   How do you feel about06.10.2005 - 22:37
real hair wig wearers?


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